That's Life 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️ - E31

Clancy Denton  0:00  
Welcome to the loud quiet. Ooh, empty nester. Okay. What does that mean?

Rick Denton  0:06  
I think that actually probably is the theme of the empty nest. What are we doing? Let's do this. Let's do this thing. is this Recording. yes Okay,

Clancy Denton  0:15  
great. sans, children just does we need to tissue box up here. Follow along on our journey and maybe you know we can learn from others clue how to be empty nesters if this is the loud quiet, living the empty nest All right. Hello. Welcome back. Episode 31 of the loud quiet. Happy St. Patrick's Day we're recording this on St. Patrick's Day. So one of us were green, one of us did

Rick Denton  0:42  
not I could I could do the elementary school joke. Well, I'm wearing green underwear, but I'm not. I always got out of it in elementary school when you were the kid that forgot.

Clancy Denton  0:53  
So but yeah, it's, you know, we've we've celebrated St. Patrick's days, in fun ways. And we did the parade. I know. Yeah. And I even was in Chicago one year when the river was green. And but yeah, so it's, it's a holiday that I enjoy because I am Irish. So I name is obviously Irish, we've given both of our children. Irish, I think they're both Irish doesn t and we

Rick Denton  1:24  
know, for sure is, I think Tanner now has just become sort of the descent of all points.

Clancy Denton  1:30  
So so they're happy St. Patrick's Day,

Rick Denton  1:33  
Patrick's Day to you as well. Yeah. And so well, today is is a holiday. And there's events associated with that, you know, we didn't do anything particularly special for St. Patrick's Day. And that was something that we thought we might have a conversation about, as you know, a lot of living the emptiness life isn't the exciting, it even could be called the mundane, but it's just the stories of life. And even the mundane sometimes that's some, some laughs and it's some tears in it and and just quote, normal. Life is a part of being in the empty nest as well. And so we wanted to spend a little time talking about that. And I think we also want to talk, there's, it's also an area that has elements of loss associated with it, and how do you deal with loss differently? Or is it the same as an empty nest? And so just exploring those two themes today, which seem opposite of each other? And yet, it really is just, well, if this is the loud, quiet living the empty nest, it's living the empty nest.

Clancy Denton  2:31  
Yeah, it's just life. Right. And you know, coming off of spring break, and enjoying, you know, going out every night and having activities, just fun, fun times spending time with each other spending time with Tegan and then this week, you know, I always like coming off of vacation to have kind of just a calm getting back into things. We

Rick Denton  2:58  
we haven't planned it that way. Like we came back on Friday, which gives you a whole weekend to have sort of the calm and then then lead into the next week. Right in theory it should have been that way.

Clancy Denton  3:08  
Yeah, it was just, you know, we had three we had two scheduled events and then I had a third event I evening events and I mean, I was just like I can't do this. This is too much right after coming off of a trip and

Rick Denton  3:28  
that right there tells you empty nest right Yeah,

Clancy Denton  3:31  
well I am a big proponent of when I get home from work and after I get everything done I need to get done. I go straight into my jogging pants and sweat shirt and wet hair and that is my relaxing. I do not greet you at the door in my dress. Or on the tray so oh

Rick Denton  3:57  
my gosh I don't even know what I would do if I walked in the door. I'd look around wondering if I was at the right house

Clancy Denton  4:03  
now I am like zero to 10 in my comfy clothes which even after we record the first thing I do is go downstairs and change I mean

Rick Denton  4:13  
maybe we need to record in a comfy clothes who needs to get dolled up for the show right

Clancy Denton  4:18  
but yeah so it was an even if you live anywhere in Texas the pollen right now is insane I mean yeah everything is covered in yellow

Rick Denton  4:34  
your your car looks at the color everything

Clancy Denton  4:37  
you don't want to touch the trash cans because it's just a cloud of yellow everywhere and I was

Rick Denton  4:44  
blowing sidewalk yesterday you could just it was a visible a true manifestation of just cloud

Clancy Denton  4:51  
which is why you're drinking the breathe easy tea because that was the only

Rick Denton  4:55  
not the this episode is do the breathing et Yeah, last time I I think I had a drink on the show was Bourbon. This is about the exact opposite. Well, and you

Clancy Denton  5:03  
were feeling under the weather. Most of the week since we've been back from New York and it hit me Friday morning. And I was supposed to go out Friday evening and I was like, I just can't I mean, my head was killing me. Yeah, so it was just, it was a lot this week. Every everything we did was fun. We went out with our new life group Tuesday night, just dinner, had a great time. You know, learning that we really have a lot more in common and then we realized and we've

Rick Denton  5:34  
talked about on episodes prior how it's difficult to find friends in your later stages of life. I'm encouraged that we found a group if you're not it's in your going, oh my gosh, we found your best friends via that kind of thing. But I found we found a group of people that are enjoyable to spend time with and hopefully they feel the same in reverse and there's just there's a lot of things that are freakishly income as well. And even like the three guys were kind of aviation dorks Now some have gone as far as taking flight lessons. But all of us are like, oh, yeah, that FlightAware app where you see where planes are flying and I mean total dork, Dorking out on that side,

Clancy Denton  6:08  
all three were talking about that on one side of the table, the girls we're talking about what's going on with Kate Middleton. And all

Rick Denton  6:15  
we did we fall into gender stereotypes so quickly. I

Clancy Denton  6:20  
think I actually looked at y'all at one point said y'all figure out a topic because we need to talk about this because one of the girls in our group is big into Royals. And so I knew she would have the lowdown which still there's no info out there. But anyways, we did that and we we also my parents took us out to dinner for our birthdays and so that was nice and we actually got to sit outside which again was that was probably not the best idea for all of the you and my dad with the pollen and all that kind of stuff, but it was

Rick Denton  6:54  
at the star you get what three weeks a year that you can sit out on a porch in Texas and it was nice to experience one of those weeks. We're

Clancy Denton  7:03  
getting them earlier this year though, you know but then we also had the storms that

Rick Denton  7:10  
we did where we talked about mundane I don't know having to jump into a closet in March has become almost traditional and yeah it's small tornado did touch down near sit wasn't one that affected that you saw it was an intense and cat who is behind your chair right now evaluating whether he's going to eat the HDMI cable or not. Is he was freaked out as it sounded like yeah, the higher barrage of rocks were being thrown at the house.

Clancy Denton  7:39  
He does fine with storms rain, but when that When hail hits he that flips him out like even the sirens going off. He looked but the hail he does not. Yeah, he does. He

Rick Denton  7:51  
knows we're talking about. Yeah, he is. It's almost like the opposite of it. Well, like it's not the opposite of a dog. But you know, dogs, like the storms. I don't like the lightning thunder. He didn't care. He liked that Hail.

Clancy Denton  8:03  
Hail does not Yeah. And Tegan even said, you know, when she was telling her roommate, yeah, that Oh, my parents had to go into the closet because it was hurting. I was like, Oh, do y'all get storms? And she's like, Yeah, bad ones. I mean, Tegan probably, you know, had we'll have some longterm PS PTSD from the storms that hit when she was in first grade. And it traumatized her. I mean, to the point that she would watch the weather like this was before little she had a phone and then when she would get a hold of my phone, she would turn the Weather app on and I mean, that was even her joke that she said I could never go to school in Oklahoma because they have tornadoes way more than we do. All

Rick Denton  8:51  
of those Oklahoma State were off her list simply because of tornadoes, which I found funny. So

Clancy Denton  8:57  
yeah, but yeah, so it was just like you're seeing we don't have a ton to discuss this week. But you know, it was just

Rick Denton  9:04  
it. Will you see the cat wandering around, right? I mean, there's even elements of oh, hey, let's clip the cat's nails like things that I did not expect to be doing in the empty nest. So how did this go down clipping

Clancy Denton  9:18  
Okay,

Rick Denton  9:19  
first of all, I answered this question. Why are we not taking? No Okay.

Clancy Denton  9:25  
There is an awesome groomer that I can take him to you know, you just drop in and they clip clip clip, brush rush rush he's done five, five minutes. Yeah. The problem is he when we first got he was a little older when we first got you know, he was not a he was still a kitten, but just barely. We should have started training getting him into his little carrier then because it is like an act of war. Yeah, it is. I mean, trying to because the minute he knows that something's up, he's gone and he's hiding up into Reagan's bed underneath and you cannot get him out. And he's now started which this is new. When I lift up the dust ruffled to see him, he hisses at me and so and so I'm like, Okay, I just so I was like, You know what? If it freaks him out so much, let me just try to do it here in five minutes. So it took me a couple of days to finally nail him down to get him getting brushed. Which once I started, he realizes Oh, he actually enjoys that. So then I started watching YouTube videos about how to get their nails cut. So yes, I bought this nasty.

Rick Denton  10:52  
This is gross. She brought bribed food. Well, first of all, I

Clancy Denton  10:54  
tried a little calming. Yeah, cue, they'll sell all sorts of stuff, which I should have read the reviews in the store. Because when I got him home and read the reviews, my cat hated these. They tasted so gross. He wouldn't eat them. Oh, yeah. Ours did the same. He thought it was a toy. He was like batting it around. So then, yes, I bought the sticks.

Rick Denton  11:19  
Like, do you know what it looks like a tube of vomit. It's what it looks like in

Clancy Denton  11:23  
the chicken. Yeah, well, it's not. It's chicken flavor.

Rick Denton  11:26  
And this was one. So this was Saturday. It's raining. It's a day that we're just kind of hanging around that kind of stuff. And I wanted to go upstairs and play Zelda. And it was first No, let's hang around downstairs. You eat lunch, Rick and make the cat think that nothing is going on. Well, that didn't work out because then the storms came and he freaked out. So I went upstairs. I'm playing video games. And he falls asleep on the cushion next to me. And I didn't even notice you come in. But all sudden, here's Clancy walk in and Hey. So I

Clancy Denton  11:57  
had I had the little tube of goo Yeah. And he was going after it. I was like okay, so that I'm trying to get like handed over to me. Yeah, well, no, I because I had seen wrap them in a blanket and then you can get so I wrapped him I started to pull the blanket over while he's just trying it. It's kind of chilly. And I actually was partially successful. I got a few of them clipped before he wiggled his way out the back of but I'm

Rick Denton  12:30  
it's hard to do this describe it. I'm sprawled out because I can't move too much trying to hold the food stick in his face that he was losing quick interest in. You have not only wrapped him in a burrito, You're laying your full body on top of while trying to pull these tiny paws out, and then squeezing out a little bit. This is the reason why outsourcing I know it's a very valuable function.

Clancy Denton  12:51  
I think if I can just get him used to it. But yeah, but here's what I also love is that I was like, Okay, I'm talking to you. And I'm like, Okay, so I'm gonna need your help. Okay, well, wait, I just need to get to this one thing. And like,

Rick Denton  13:06  
oh, yeah, the side communicating. So I did not get to that one thing. I hit pause. Nope, I got to it later. There's no problem there.

Clancy Denton  13:13  
So yeah, so yeah, so that was, you know, yay, one big feat for the week. Living

Rick Denton  13:19  
the empty nest is right there. So when you when people think oh, and they're in their 20s and 30s, what it's going to be like, just think about laying on top of your cat or your daughter's cat. Trying to clip nails.

Clancy Denton  13:31  
That's the thing. She can get him. She has got the power. She can get him into his carrier. I'm just done fighting with him. I don't, I just don't want to do it. And so I'm, I'm going to try to just get him used to me doing it. And he really didn't. He wasn't hissing, he wasn't growing. He wasn't trying to say Oh, interesting. Yeah. So. So yeah, so that was you know,

Rick Denton  14:02  
are we gonna do that every Saturday? Is that going to be our new Saturday we're seeing thankfully, we followed that up by doing something a little fun and, and we went and saw Kung Fu Panda for and we're, I think as a family but as individuals as a family. We love Kung Fu Panda. We were trying to you looked it up. It was 2008 when the first one came out. Yeah. And that's what we're trying to figure out. And so I think that part of it one, it's good. So in the sentence, it's good cut the show off here. That factor is important. And it was good at a time that we saw the delight in certainly Tanner's eyes. I don't know how much Tegan was cognizant of it at age three, but saw the delight in their eyes and it's just become kind of a part of their very few movies that we purchased in Amazon movies. It's one that sits there in our purchase. Yeah, that is so much fun, and we've seen

Clancy Denton  14:55  
all of them and she made Maybe add because she I don't know what month it came out. So she was either two or three but, you know, she has grown to love it and like, you know, it was funny because we're sitting there and and walk someone that I haven't seen in a couple of Airbnb theater. Yeah, the movie theater and she has elementary school aged kids. And she knows I mean, she's been I've known her since she was pregnant with her first one who is now in fifth or sixth grade. And so she knows our kids just through stories and she's met them and she was like, Oh my gosh, are the kids here for spring break? I was like, Nope, just me and Rick at the movie theater, watching watching TV shows. Yeah, but I said but Tegan is seeing it this afternoon in Arizona and Tanner will see it. He was doing something for St. Patrick's Day, but yeah, really cute. I mean, we just enjoy and that we like Jack Black and there's a lot of pee and awkwafina was really good. She's a new character in at this in this one. And yeah, when we liked her too, so we figured it was de Viola, Viola Viola Davis is the Viola Davis. She's another new character so great. Yeah, really well, there

Rick Denton  16:15  
it is. It is funny to think about how so empty nesters we can do anything we can see the more mature films, the art films, we can go to the angelic and then we're gonna go see kung fu fan and we're gonna see it before our kid. Then that was a timezone play. Well, actually, it's we like to go to movies in the middle of the afternoon, as opposed to a seven o'clock show. When Tanner would book a movie. He's like, Yeah, my friends, we're gonna go see X, whatever movie at 10:30pm. What

Clancy Denton  16:48  
do you got when they saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles this summer, it was about the 10 o'clock or whatever. But which we could jump now and do the text because it's actually goes along with this was from Tanner. And he texted us this weekend said Doom to five out of five. Wow. And then he said I can only assume it's how y'all felt watching Empire Strikes Back for the first. So I went back and looked when I

Rick Denton  17:20  
was eight. So no, it probably wasn't exactly what like watching Empire Strikes Back. I do remember being enjoying it as a kid. I actually remember the original the first Star Wars but yes, I remember Empire Strikes Back but

Clancy Denton  17:35  
maybe at a lot more revolved around et like I remember Yes. while they're waiting in line and the Reese's, and there was like an 80 character and you know, back then we pennies was doing some sponsorship. And so we got to you know, go and so you know, maybe that's the first one that I can really remember. And but then I remember return to the Jedi. Oh, yeah, you know. So

Rick Denton  18:02  
I had a turn of the giant Ewok lunchbox which it bears the crap out of me when I showed up to school. And they all made fun of me. So that was my first exposure to realize, yeah,

Clancy Denton  18:10  
having that feeling of the movie. Now. I don't care a lick about dune. But, but I'm glad he enjoyed it. And they thought it was awesome. And so he's really gotten into there's one group of his friends that are huge into movies. And so he's really gotten into, you know, when he your senior in college is texting you during the Oscars about things. And y'all were really excited for the boy that

Rick Denton  18:40  
Japanese anime, the boy in the hair, and it was great. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of fun.

Clancy Denton  18:45  
So yeah. Was there anything else from our week?

Rick Denton  18:50  
Well, you know, it's a bit of a backwards thought here. in it. We'll see if we edit this out or not. But in the we're talking about Friday night, how that was a night that you were intending to go out? Well, you know, what's going on in the mind of the spouse who's not going to? I got the house to myself. I've already thought about, I'm going to watch all this basketball. I'm gonna play Zelda for hours, and I'm not going to go did

Clancy Denton  19:15  
you do anything? Like no, because I went to the back and watched. I watched a little bit of basketball with you. But then I went to the back. I

Rick Denton  19:24  
said I'm out. So which is and I think we'll talk about this next week is probably going to be the life here for a couple of weekends. Here. It is, it is that season. But it was It is funny to think that there are those moments of the rare chances that you know, someone gets the house to themselves, that it's actually a delight for a period of time, right and it. I think 2040 Or I guess almost 24 years of marriage gets that kind of security of No, no, it's okay. Well,

Clancy Denton  19:51  
and I even texted you that I said look, I know I'm not supposed to be home, so just do what you are planning on doing but I don't think you had that. Yeah, you did it anyway. So I don't think I interfered at all in your Well,

Rick Denton  20:02  
I did have to. So you know, that was that was a, an element to the evening that I don't know how

Clancy Denton  20:08  
much talking there was. Because we're both not feeling great. So thanks for your Thanks, Paul. And yeah, my name is Paul. And so yeah, so

Rick Denton  20:20  
either it's Monday and or hodgepodge, whatever you want to call it, but that's living the empty nest is not just the crazy the, the over the top, it's also just life.

Clancy Denton  20:28  
Yeah, but then like, like we talked about, or you mentioned at the beginning, you know. And just dealing with one of the couples in our group that we've known, actually, for a very long time, because the boys went to elementary school all the way through high school together. You know, they had to say goodbye to their dog that they've had for 16 years. This week. And, you know, I have another friend who had to move her mom into a in home care place, that's, you know, one step down from independent living. And so, you know, it's just dealing with loss during the empty nest is, you know, I guess, like losing your pet that you've had with your children. I'm sure that's, you know, Amanda even said, it's just so quiet now. Yeah.

Rick Denton  21:34  
You went up at a real loud, quiet, yeah, if you if we, if Misa weren't running around, or something like that. So yeah, the and I hadn't thought of it until you just said it. That the loss, as we age, we're going to experience more loss, because that's just the nature of life. I thought about the pet part of it, though, because it ties your memories to raising your kids. So it was so many families do choose to get a pet when their kids or the kids either wanted or it's just kind of kind of the American sort of style of doing things, we did the same thing. Our dog just tragically died at age two, right. And so we would have had that experience, but they the idea of this pet is the one that you've raised as you've raised your kids, and to lose that. I imagine that this is the amateur psychologist and me but there's that you're not just grieving for the pet, you're grieving for that stage of life. It's associating it with fear of your own kids growing up and they're changing and and sort of the loss of kids as they turn into adults. There's so much woven into that that's that the loss of a pet alone is weighted in grief, layering all this other stuff on top of it just has to make it incredibly challenging

Clancy Denton  22:53  
and thinking about your, you know, kids having to deal with it. Not with you, you know if they're off in school, or you know, yeah, it's just, I can't imagine having to make that phone call. If something were to happen to her cat, you know? Yeah, I just

Rick Denton  23:19  
he's behind the chair, looking at me knocking on the window we're talking about you little do. Yeah, I worry about that. Every time he goes upstairs in a storm. I'm like, don't get in the closet. Those sorts of thoughts flow through your head. I can't even imagine. Yeah.

Clancy Denton  23:29  
And she did. And she was like, oh, was he in there with you? I said he was under your bed. I could not get him out. And she was like, well. So but yeah, just dealing, you know, and as you said, we're all aging. Our parents are aging. You know, there is that circle of life that yes, we will have to deal with loss. But then there's also last that, you know, is unexpected. And you know, it's just, we were talking this week about? Tegan has this big, huge sociology project that she's doing. And she her topic is, is guns, violence in school, not necessarily guns, but violence in school. And so she sent me and Rick, she's having to do interviews with people. And she had already interviewed her best friend Kennedy when they were home this week. And so she sent me and Rick these questions, because when she was a freshman and Tina was a senior, they had an incident at their high school. And so she's revolving her paper around that, you know, unfortunately, she's been involved in another one as well, her junior year of high school. And so, going through the questions, I went back and reread the text messages because the first one She was Where were you when you heard about this? And I was like, Well, I can't I went, No, I wasn't home with Tanner because Tanner was home for late arrival, so I was like, I guess I just gotten to work. And then yes, I could see but man rereading that text thread and seeing a text from your child that says, if something happens, I love you guys. You know, I was like, Oh, my gosh, it just, you know, that could have taken. Luckily, it ended up being you know, it was still a traumatic event, but it did not end up causing any harm to anyone except for the kid that that chose to do that. But it just rereading those texts. Yeah, man, it just started up all of these emotions of, you know, that could have gone really, really badly. So thank goodness, it didn't. And, you know, it is amazing. It just made me think some of the questions. One of the questions was, what did you feel when you heard and I said, you know, unfortunately, not shocked? Which is sad. Yeah. I mean, that. That's how it's become. When we were in school, this stuff did not happen. Once Columbine happened, then, you know, and

Rick Denton  26:25  
we don't want to make this an episode about school, per se. I will say, though, that one of the answers to the questions was, what did you expect? I actually did, I remember having bomb threats in my school. Now I went to a private Christian school. And so that had an element of it, although some of the bomb threats, were just knucklehead kids and back, then you viewed it as knucklehead kids. Some of those may have been somewhat politically motivated even back then. And so we did. And that was elementary school, I went to regular public school in high school. The the numbness that you described is what I remember, although it's and it's because I think the one that I'm thinking of was the third occurrence, because Tanner had one where he was at another school at a theater or something that he was at another school, that when I was much more afraid of, because it was the first and it came out fine out of that. And then the second, then the third, so you start to develop a numbness about it. It doesn't change though, reading a text like that, and, and what that would do to you. Yeah, because

Clancy Denton  27:22  
like the the third incident, you know, and I told her this, I said, Yeah, that's when they just completely shut down. They wouldn't even let y'all come to school, because there were threats, active threats going on. And I said, See, y'all went to the mall. I mean, you know, it's just,

Rick Denton  27:40  
which, ironically, is probably less. Yeah, I

Clancy Denton  27:43  
know. It just made me think of, you know, this could have gone and thinking of loss and thinking of that, you know, kind of thing. And so you know, it's just dealing with loss, when you're only dealing with it with your spouse. Now, you know, when your kids were here, you could still see, when they were at home, if something devastating happened. You still had to be mom and dad and put on a good face for them. When you're dealing with laws when it's just you and your spouse who you've had a relationship with for, you know, 20 plus years. 30 plus years. You can be in your feelings you don't have to and I don't know I'm saying you don't show your kids that but I have no responsibility. If I if I'm breaking down and I can't fix dinner, okay,

Rick Denton  28:40  
well, yeah, you don't need to shield me from something. I think as a parent, you're trying to shield that's a really astute point you're bringing in there is that in the empty nest, some of that shielding responsibility is gone. And our kids will always still always be our kids. But that shielding responsibility is gone. And we can just live in the moment ourselves. And so as we started by talking about pet loss, that that just sort of you can grieve as a couple and grieve, grieve as an individual and grieve as a couple.

Clancy Denton  29:11  
And I liked when, and I know, I'm mentioning Amanda's name. I'll tell her that she's in this episode, but I do I like what she said. She said, you know, his FIRFER was all over and she was like, I didn't I wasn't ready to vacuum it up yet. I'm like, Yeah, I can see that that's, you know, your last tie

Rick Denton  29:32  
tied to a whole other topic, not just the loss of your loved pet but the whole phase of life.

Clancy Denton  29:42  
Say Yeah, but ya know, so you know, dealing with loss and for those of y'all that listened last week are on my personal Facebook page or our first our personal Facebook pages. You've seen our friends that, you know, their son is still Oh, he's still missing and out there. So yeah, so here's the missing the Crime Stoppers missing persons.

Rick Denton  30:10  
person that we don't know. We don't know. There's there's all that you can pick any hypothesis you want to all that matters right now is there's a child, even though he's 21. But to the parents, this is a child who's missing, and they just want closure. Yeah. So please, those of you who are listening, those you're watching, just make sure and share either this portion or go to Clancy's Facebook page and share what she's sharing about Caleb, let's, let's get him home. Let's get some closure. So there you go. So from the mundane to the loss to the tragic. It is, I mean, it's a life that we live, it's a life we'll continue to live. There'll be plenty of delights, right? We talked about next week. Actually, right now. It's conference tournament season next week. It's March Madness, which I won't sing the song now, but I might sing it next week. But there's there's a lot of life to be lived in this empty nest. It is not a

Clancy Denton  31:06  
and I am looking forward to this week. I don't think I have anything in the evenings. You're actually going to Austin for a day trip. So

Rick Denton  31:16  
you don't even have me during the day on Wednesday. You got nothing.

Clancy Denton  31:20  
I am looking forward to just I think and I think too I think the time change just as much as it's not you know, we're already a week into it. But man missing that one hour. Well, it's the darkness. You've talked about the dark and I don't like getting up in the dark. No

Rick Denton  31:39  
fun there. Well, at some point, we've talked about how emptiness does not retirement but at some point we'll just say screw it to the clock. We're not there yet, but hopefully that time does come soon. I wish you could see what I see back here. There's all sorts of barrel rolls and gymnastics as he's trying to dig into the chair so it's probably time to bring this episode to

Clancy Denton  32:00  
a close before you are you not start scratching these slight

Rick Denton  32:03  
notes under whether or not we should have a camera just on him. Boy, does he add a lot of flavor to this house.

Clancy Denton  32:13  
Yeah, he is quiet but it's sometimes he's not. High well. Thanks, guys for listening again to another episode of the loud quiet live in the empty nest.

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