Empty Nest-ish - E11

Clancy Denton  0:00  
Welcome to the loud quiet. Ooh, empty nester. Okay. What does that mean?

Rick Denton  0:06  
I think that actually probably is the theme of the next. What are we doing? Let's do this. Let's do this thing. Am I Recording. Okay,yeah

Clancy Denton  0:15  
 great.

Sans, children just does we need to tissue box up here. Follow along on our journey and maybe you know we can learn from others.

Rick Denton  0:23  
I don't have a clue how to be empty nesters, if

Clancy Denton  0:25  
this is the loud, quiet, living the empty nest 

welcome back to another episode of the loud quiet. We are on episode 11. And we're so happy to have set of guests with us that are so important to us. I mean, have been in our lives now for 13 and a half years. 

Rick Denton  0:48  
I was impressed. On the fly

Clancy Denton  0:49  
Yeah, I'd already done it previously.

now. We all there were four couples that moved in family that moved in at the same time all across the street, a couple doors down couple doors down. Three of us are still here. And you know, we have all stay connected. Our kids are all stairsteps. So we when the gills I guess I should say their name. Sorry, this Ibby & Jim

Rick Denton  1:21  
I thought we were doing like Smartless where it was revealed the guest at the end. Jim and Ibby Gill 

Clancy Denton  1:29  
couple of weeks to get my guests back on. So yeah, so this is Ibby and Jim Gill and yes, they live across the street from us kind of diagonally. Their son Dylan is a year older than Tanner then we have their son, Kendall, who's a year older than Teagan. And then it was amazing how every one of those for a cup we all had one in every grade, from kindergarten to what I mean. Yeah, so it was crazy how that worked out and how they all I have pictures that we will be showing that we'll put in the podcast. When they did trick or treating together the one of them in the truck or they're all in the truck. There's one of Tanner and Dylan over in the field before it was even a house. And so yeah, so we have gone through life together. You know, we are kids, we're all involved in different things. But we all still have stayed connected. I don't know if you've ever referred but you know, Jim, Jim and Eric, who are other friends down the street are you know, Rick likes to refer to them as his shovel friends, because if anything ever happened, and they needed to take care of something, he could call them up and say bring your shovel and they would be right there.

Rick Denton  2:56  
And we may be editing that part out of the episode don't need that to be deposed. But yes, they definitely shall. So it's thank you all for being on the show. Welcome to the loud quiet.

Ibby Gill  3:09  
Thank you for having us.

Jim Gill  3:10  
Thank you.

Rick Denton  3:13  
You said sharing life together. And so everything you just mentioned is life that we've shared together. What's interesting now is we're sharing a new phase of life right this empty nester life. And I know that as we get into the episode, we'll be able to talk a little bit about how you all are sort of empty nest ish, and what that looks like. And that's I think I'd like to start there is kind of, would you just talk about kind of what your emptiness setup is right now. What's it like you've got the two boys? And what is your empty nest setup today?

Ibby Gill  3:53  
Boys we have Dylan is 20 to 23 next month, right 23 Next month, and Kendall is 19. Now, Dylan did a little bit different, different route after high school. He is a mechanic he went to is called the Universal Technical Institute. And he graduated top of his class and he's been working as a mechanic. But as we all know, rent is ridiculous. And so he lives with us. He's living at home, he's going to work and that's kind of where we are in Kendall is at University of Arkansas. So it's a little bit different dynamic for us. When Kendall left her school people would say oh, you know, how has it been an empty nester and we're like well, don't really not

Jim Gill  4:45  
but Dylan's Dylan's arrangement is as I would more refer to it as free food and heat. So this is where Dylan sleeps.

Rick Denton  4:58  
The Jim does that mean the challenge charging him in the summer for the air conditioning. So he only gets winter and he has to pay for that.

Jim Gill  5:04  
He gets that for free, too. So yeah, it's a sort of free load right now. And we're letting him so

Ibby Gill  5:15  
it's nice. Well,

Rick Denton  5:16  
you tell me Oh, so it'd be Tell me about that. You said, it's nice to have him there. Because I think most folks natural just knee jerk reaction would be, oh, my kid is still here, or Oh, their kid is still there. And you said, it's nice to have him there. Tell me why.

Ibby Gill  5:32  
It's, it's just it's kind of a comfort to know that he's here. And like, if I go to bed, and he's home, it's just, it's just a comfort to know that he's home and he's safe. And he's under our roof. And he's here. It's nice, you know, if Jim's work or something happens, you know, like the other day, a couple of weeks ago, I went to try to go to the store on a Sunday morning, and my car wouldn't start. So I have a mechanic upstairs who, you know. It's nice when it works a lot. So it's it's nice when he's not home. I have a friendly face that comes home from work. And he's always friendly. He's often grumpy when he comes home from work as we all are, right. So

Jim Gill  6:15  
if we needed an extra shovel, we got Bill. Yeah.

Rick Denton  6:22  
Crew, I've known him for a long, long time. Yeah, I was thinking about your story. And this idea of generations, immediately leaving the house is not it may be relatively American, or maybe very Western. There's a lot of cultures that have generations living under the same roof. And it probably wasn't too long ago that our generations before us probably had multiple people inside the house so that that comfort level makes a lot of sense. What was it like when you seem to that realization that that's how it was going to be that it was going to be? First of all, it's fantastic that he's going into a trade school and becoming a mechanic and all that. There's so many layers of how that's right, because college isn't for everyone. And my gosh, we need more people in trades. And he's probably going to be more successful than any of us on this call and all the siblings involved as well. And so that will say Eagle Scout, and him. Yeah. I have a lot of faith in that Eagle Scout.

Jim Gill  7:25  
Yeah. Oh, he's got his own. His Metrodome is definitely operating at a different pace than, you know, some other people.

Clancy Denton  7:34  
Yeah. And he's always since we've known him know, but he did well in school, you know, he never struggled in school. You know, he was very talented in the band. And yeah, so walk me

Rick Denton  7:47  
through kind of that moment, because a lot of us that for us, for example, we right now or the traditional empty nest path, right? Our kids go off to something, whether it's whatever it is post high school, our kids have gone off to that thing. In our case, it's to university kids, and then they're gone, except for when they're back for summers. What was that? Like when you came to that realization? Oh, that's not what it's going to be like he's going to stay home because it does make sense economically for him to stay home.

Ibby Gill  8:15  
I think for me, it was it was relief. And I inox and I'll explain why. So like Jim said, he kind of moved to his own tempo. So a story that I always tell about Dylan whenever we get a little frustrated, and I have to tell myself the story often, when Dylan when we were trying to potty train Dylan, oh, boy, you're gonna tell him? You know, we've all been down the road, right? And he didn't want to do it. He just didn't want to do it. And so we would, I would say, but you know, Luke goes to the bathroom on the potty and Brandon goes to the bathroom on the potty, whatever. And he just would get the heat and say, I don't and then move on. But guess what? It's not like he went to preschool wearing a diaper or kindergarten and weren't an idea is on paper. So when Dylan graduated high school, he really didn't know what he wanted to do. And he felt very down about that. And it took almost almost exactly a year for him to finally commit and say that he was going to go to UTI

Jim Gill  9:22  
Oh, yeah, Dylan took a year off. Yeah, he did.

Ibby Gill  9:26  
He did a gap year and we're happier.

Rick Denton  9:28  
That's right. There's a better branding for it. Now. It's just a gap year.

Jim Gill  9:31  
No job. No, nothing.

Clancy Denton  9:33  
He was. Oh, he didn't think it'd be do you think because Dylan's core group. A lot of his friends were Mormon and going on their missions. Right. Do you think that that made him you know, because y'all are not Mormon. So was that a factor? You think that you know, he saw them all going and he still was And I think it's crazy that a kid has to know what they're going to study by the time they graduate high school anyways, I mean, we're putting so much pressure on these kids now to have their entire lives laid out. But do you think that contributed to it?

Ibby Gill  10:15  
You know, I hadn't really thought about it that way. But But yeah, probably it probably did. And then, you know, he had one. And we also had, we had COVID in there. So he had one friend who left on his mission, and was only gone a few months, and they had to bring him home because of COVID. And so then he had that friend here while he started school, and that friend was going to school here as well. So yeah, I mean, very well could have been part of that. For sure.

Rick Denton  10:47  
I I'm kind of eyebrow raised, as you're saying that I hadn't even thought of that. That's an intriguing thought of if your peer group has this kind of built in. It's not a gap year, but it's something that is a temporary element in whatever they're growing up is going to be in that period doesn't and thought about that before. We may need to look that one up. Let's see if there's a the empty nest ish for a friends of those of the Mormon faith. So that's Dylan. Right. And he's home. And I like that you mentioned here that there's actually kind of comfort to that gym, I sense that there's a little bit of, yeah, but you know, it's, it's alright, if he finds his own place, is there a thought of, you know, at some point, it's, it's time for that place.

Jim Gill  11:31  
I like him here too. And she actually pushes more towards where she has her moments where it's time for him to go, he needs to go, he needs to find another place to live. And I'm like, Okay, well, I mean, I'm okay with him staying here. Because, you know, that's, you know, that's my my boy. And, you know, I have a different vision of what it was going to be like him being here, I thought, last my guy, I mean, we're going to happy hour, we're gonna go, you know, get some chicken wings and drink a couple of years, you know, we're gonna go hang out, we're gonna do all this stuff. But we don't I mean, the reality is, you know, we spend very little time together, it's, it is really where he, he comes to sleep and gets up and leaves and, you know, and then sometimes he comes home, and then he's, you know, leaves again, shortly after that, and sometimes he doesn't come home, and sometimes he's, you know, out till, you know, two or three o'clock in the morning or whatever, but I have had, you know, moments where I can pin them down and go hang out with them and go do something. But, you know, it's, you know, at that point in time, it's like, you know, I got another guy in the house with me. So, you know, but, you know, it's my, it's my boy, he's a man, he's a young man, he's still trying to find his way. And, and I feel like, as long as I'm here, I can help him find his way. And if he needs that, and God knows, he won't ask for help. So, you know,

Clancy Denton  12:54  
he's blessed to have parents like y'all, because a lot of parents would not be so willing and loving to,

Rick Denton  13:03  
I think I'd be guilty of that, like, you know, get out that that sort of thing. I don't mean harshly, but just sort of, you know, move to the next that next phase.

Clancy Denton  13:11  
For a single kid who has a good job. It's still you need like four or five roommates to be able to afford an apartment somewhere. It's crazy.

Rick Denton  13:21  
I have no idea how kids are going to be buying houses, I had no idea. We've talked about the incredible appreciation in our neighborhood. And I don't know how anybody buys a starter home, when it starts at a 5678.

Jim Gill  13:32  
I've got a friend that I work with and retire. And he has, I think Ryan's probably 27 or eight now. And Ryan basically lived at home until he was probably 2526. And, you know, instead of charging him while they did charge them rent, they charge them rent, but they basically put the money in a savings account for them. And, you know, I used to always give Roddy a bunch of trouble because, you know, he's like, why put some money in Ryan's checking account because he doesn't make enough money to do anything. And, and, you know, he recently did move out. And when he did move out, what was mom and dad, were paying half the rent, and I was like, what, you know, I don't necessarily know that I'm on board with that either. You know, like, I will definitely help my kids within any means possible, but I'm not going to pay the rent. If that's the case, then you're just sitting here and when you get sick of our world, the way we live and you know, and you can't abide by the rules of the house, then yeah, then get out and go do your own thing. You'll have to you'll figure it out at that point. You don't like it you know, and and when it's not comfortable for you here, unfortunately make things very comfortable for our kids. So because that's what we do.

Clancy Denton  14:54  
I think we're all baby I think Yeah, he's up in Frisco. I mean, so you know, y'all also have y'all got two really good stories involving your kid that I think people will be interested in. And people have been in both boats. So. So you also have Kendall, who is a sophomore, but decided to transfer schools after his freshman year. So how did that how Tell us how that made you feel? How, you know, I'm sure there was some nervousness and anxiety. And how was that transition.

Jim Gill  15:36  
We won that college. The first year, you had all those emotions the first year, and then we get to do with a second year. He was close enough, he was only 30 minutes away. So he could come home every weekend, which he did. And, you know, although Kendall, the different from Dylan is very independent, but he did come home a lot. And some days, some weekends, he would come home and then not even spend the night and go back that night. Just go hang out with some friends or whatever. So we had him here. And that was, you know, that was easy, because we never missed them. And so the first year was like, yeah, he's gone. But you know, he's only 30 minutes away. And I told her when we when we did that, you know, okay, he's going to college, send them off, say goodbye. And let's go. You can see him whenever you want. And now he's five hours away. And we did that. You know, second time around saying goodbye to a kid. Only this time. It's like, we haven't seen him in how many weeks?

Ibby Gill  16:38  
We haven't seen him since we dropped it off. Yeah. So

Jim Gill  16:40  
since August.

Clancy Denton  16:42  
Yeah. Yeah.

Rick Denton  16:45  
So that's, uh, how does that feel? Because this is the first of your children that that that is what you're experiencing that they've been gone for this long. Yeah. What do you feel in mom and dad?

Ibby Gill  16:59  
It's weird. It's weird that to see him and, you know, we talk to him pretty often. And when we you know, usually when he calls I'll talk to he'll call me like in the middle of the afternoon, and we'll talk for like an hour and a half. And he said last week when he called he goes, I really think I took took for granted being able to see you every weekend, last weekend last year. So sweet. And he's he's very smart. He's very outgoing. So he knew when we toured University of Arkansas, he knew he knew that he liked that school a lot. But he said as we were kind of walking around campus and stuff, because I think I'm gonna get homesick here. And I said, you probably will, but that's part of going to school is, you know, how do you cope with being homesick? How are we going to cope with with missing you? And you know, he just kind of he kind of did it. So it's, I think it's good that we haven't seen him for that long because he was kind of forced to be to be able to figure it out. Yeah. Dropping out, like Jim said, it was like ripping off a band aid all over again. We know we left him someplace where he didn't. Didn't know anybody and his roommates hadn't moved in yet. So we're leaving him with an empty apartment. And his roommates hadn't moved in yet. And a couple days later, so just by himself, so

Rick Denton  18:30  
not the guy realized that when the new y'all moved them in before the roommate showed up, I don't think I realized that when y'all left. The roommates still weren't there that must have felt really severe. I'm just abandoning my baby, even though that's clearly not the case.

Ibby Gill  18:45  
He tried his hardest to keep us there as long as he could. I mean, he kept finding a reason. He's like, when you guys were leaving, like, yes, you're going to orientation we were not going with you to orientation, you aren't doing this, you'll be fine. And so all we

Jim Gill  18:59  
were trying to do was get to the lake in Missouri, and we couldn't get we couldn't get we go. So

Clancy Denton  19:07  
can he comes home for Christmas. And then when he goes back, that was almost harder for me with Tanner. And I haven't done it yet with Tegan than it was dropping them off because you just got them back and then you're back in your group and then they get back you know ours get back on the plane and go back to Arizona. So yeah, that was almost a harder feeling than leaving on the first time. Yeah, it's it's weird.

Rick Denton  19:37  
I'm trying to think back to that time. And I'm immediately going jokey. I don't really remember that time but I've got to imagine there was a part of me I'm going to speak of me, not of us that was ready for him to go back because there's also the keys to living a college lifestyle in a non college house. That is true. All right, go live your college lifestyle where I don't know But you're living your college lifestyle.

Clancy Denton  20:03  
So yeah, so but candles, when are y'all going? Y'all going in the next couple of weeks? Next weekend? Okay. Yeah, I knew it was coming up. Okay, good

Rick Denton  20:11  
that you mentioned the lake house. And I want to. We talked a lot about kids. But the reality is the empty nest is about us, right? Let's be selfish for a second. It's about us as the parents. And we've Clinton, I have talked about this on a show before where I know I had a mental disconnect between becoming an empty nester and retirement. And I thought that by the time that I got to be emptiness, suddenly it's just freedom and everything is great. And we get to do whatever we want. And then the reality of oh, wait, I still have a job. We still have to work and we still have to work and we still have commitments here that aren't the same freedom. Have y'all felt that? As well as you're thinking about what retirement looks like? an emptiness now? Are you feeling some of that disconnect between freedom and tied to your job? Well, because

Clancy Denton  21:01  
one of us in this group is getting close. Not Not anyone over here?

Rick Denton  21:07  
Well, maybe getting Yeah, somebody's getting close to retirement. So talk about that, as you think about empty nest and retirement and what's that, like? shouldn't change he has this huge smile on its thinking. I see happy, Jim.

Jim Gill  21:24  
Yeah. Yeah, so it's, I haven't devolved a some people at work know, the day those are my closer internal work people that I, you know, they want to know, and I let them know, and then the general population at work just knows I'm retiring sometime in 2024. And those who were smart enough to figure it out, had realized that and I go by Vinnie at work that Vinnie hasn't Vinnie hasn't been any leave any vacation time past the Fourth of July. So those those that have been able to actually piece that together and figure it out if we realize that and to quote a Seinfeld episode, it would be the summer of George, but only the summer of Jim.

Rick Denton  22:13  
Imagine what the summer of Jim is going to look like, this is going to be amazing.

Jim Gill  22:18  
Yeah. And let me tell you, the person sitting next to me is has no interest in seeing what the summer of Jim looks like.

Rick Denton  22:27  
We're gonna talk about individual interest in the light here in a second, yes, I can imagine that there's some a divergence between what the summer of Jim is going to be for the both of you. You're feeling that it but you're still in the midst. So you've got this blend of emptiness and retirement? How is that affecting you today? You've got this vision, you've got to effect a date. And you can tell me later if I need to bleep that out. But you've got a date in mind. What does this look like for you? Now, when you think about kind of your day to day? How does that feel?

Jim Gill  23:01  
I'm because I've worked shift work for 30 years, you know, with my line of work, and, you know, no way around that year, you know, your shift work person. So I have awful, you know, sleep habits. And and so for me, it looks like, you know, I always tell her, I said, Well, I'm at least taking you know, the five months or whatever it is between my last day of work, and when I'm actually technically going to be retired to just, I want to say do nothing, I'm sure. She says you won't last long doing nothing, you'll be bored. But

Ibby Gill  23:38  
you guys know. i Yeah,

Jim Gill  23:40  
yeah. Yeah, my answer to that is always well, I want to see what being bored feels like, like, I want that. You know, I want to run out of you know, things to do, and then see what happens. And when I say things to do, I'm not talking about work around the house and stuff like that, because, you know, she's done all the work around the house and, and I basically done nothing. You know, like, my work and then you know, so anyway, I have things that I like to do, and I'll do some of those. But, you know, right now, the for the last couple of years, I've only had one day off a week. And you know, when that day comes, I don't want to do anything. I literally don't want to do anything next Taco Tuesday for us, by the way that you know that. That's the day off. So we try to do Taco Tuesday or at least have a date night on that night. And, you know, most of the time, you know, I barely get a chance to get a one decent night sleep and then you know, I'll sit around in my pajamas for the first four hours of the morning and I go back and forth from what I call the studio. I play the guitar for a little bit then I go back out and watch some more TV and sit on my iPad and then I play the guitar again and you know, maybe I slipped by the pool

Rick Denton  25:02  
and just listener realize Jim is in an incredible not only is he working six days a week he's in one of the most like scientifically one of the most stressful jobs there is he's a, he worked for the FAA. It is a rivals at DFW. Is that correct? Jim, do I have that right?

Jim Gill  25:17  
We do arrivals

Rick Denton  25:18  
in the Dallas area. Okay, the whole thing, but running air traffic control for one of the world's most busiest districts. So to what you're describing, I can see why retirement is something you are eagerly awaiting. And that one day off is such a delight.

Clancy Denton  25:39  
Yeah, yeah, you guys have really had you your entire the entire time we've known you. You know, y'all are constantly having to adjust schedules and change things. But I will say and I give you all props. One thing y'all were really good about is like, you guys, on whatever day Jim had off, you know, y'all did go to dinner, go to you know, Taco Tuesdays go, y'all have done a good job, I think of still maintaining your relationship outside of the craziness of having to readjust schedules all the time.

Rick Denton  26:15  
Was that a conscious choice? Because I agree with Clancy I've admired that. I'll see the posted via for a while there. It seemed like y'all were union bear. Now it's other places. But it does seem like y'all have definitely focused on that moment. When that moment occurs to spend that time together. Was that a conscious choice? Did you fall into it? How did this come about where you were doing that and focused on those date moments?

Jim Gill  26:37  
I think when she gets sick of cooking dinner for me, we've just decided

Ibby Gill  26:47  
it is, for me, it's more of a conscious thing. It's like, let's get away from the house and away from the phones and the iPads and the TV and do something else. We have limited time. So let's go and let's do spend so many time, so much time with kids, you know, we had, we had one that played competitive baseball, and so he was going one direction and that and while the other one was going on a campout for scouts. And so we spent so much time dividing and conquering that, you know, it's nice to find the time to do it together and do that.

Clancy Denton  27:22  
Well, and y'all do y'all do Disney a lot? Because it'd be are you going to continue your job when he retires? I mean, because you can do yours from home, I guess. And you have a lot of perks with yours.

Ibby Gill  27:36  
Yes, my plan is to continue, because it's a very rare occasion to find a place that you work where you thoroughly enjoy the people that you work with. And I work with an amazing group of people. And I'm not, I don't, I don't want to give that up. You know, they're, they're good people, they're, you know, they're fun to travel with. They're fun to be with the we've been together to through tears through laughter through hurricanes, you know, all of it. So I plan to continue. So we'll see how it works. I have a lot of time now when the house is quiet. And so it's nice I can I can work on the one day off that he has some times those days get a little louder than others. And it makes it a little more challenging. But we'll see how it goes moving forward, but no need to continue doing what I'm doing because I enjoy it. And I enjoy the people I'm with. And I enjoy the perks that come with them.

Rick Denton  28:38  
Maybe what you say, because I do want folks to know it. Let folks and we'll get this in the show notes. You You are a travel agent. I know that you have a Disney focus, but would you just describe what you do? And we can make sure because folks reach out to me if you need some some guides with us. But tell us a little bit about your your specific focus.

Ibby Gill  28:55  
Yes, so I work for a travel agency that specializes in Disney destinations. And so that means some people think oh Disney World Disneyland, but they don't realize that Disney also has a Adventures by Disney which is like a group travel, which are very nice. Also, they also have a resort in Hawaii Allamani. So I can do all of those. So I plan those anybody that's going to a park or anything like that I plan start to finish anything that they want dining, all of that. At the same time. I also do some administrative work for the agency. So I get to do a little bit of both. But yeah, I get to help people make magic happen.

Rick Denton  29:39  
Oh, well, we'll definitely get that in the show notes. You know, folks if you have a Disney appetite and or anything. Yeah, reach out to me. Absolutely. I think that's interesting. And I know we're we're getting along a time but there's more questions I want to ask Alan and it is I'm gonna ask like five things at once and I'll let y'all kind of pull are sad how you would approach that. But, Jim, you're looking to a retirement date that's coming up, it'd be you're intending to continue that working element of that. And so and we talked about the date night where there's the element of focus of being together. There's something that y'all are building in this empty nest where it's the the living life together, the dating together, but also developing your independent elements as well, Jim, with your guitars that aren't on screen, and by golly, I wish we could show him because it's a phenomenal set that you have there. It'd be with what you're doing and what you're focused on. How? Let me ask one question, but really, with all those five themes in there, how are y'all balancing and visualizing vowed balancing being together, but then also developing your independence in this empty nest phase?

Jim Gill  30:49  
Oh, that's a really tough question there, isn't it? I think, especially since I've done several things, and yeah, she's going to struggle a little bit more than me. Because I just kind of just do whatever I hate, say, to do whatever I want. I don't know. I mean, I. So I mean, I married my high school sweetheart. So I assume she married hers. But so I don't know that we sometimes don't have to work too hard at at being together. And maybe maybe that's not always a good thing. So I don't know, I That's a tough question. I think it's important to have some interest so that you have something to do that you don't necessarily always have to be in the same room with each other and always have to be doing the same thing. I think she needs a little bit more of that. So that she's not always at the house. And I have work right now. So right now, and I tell the guys at work that, that this will be a struggle for me for sure. Because, you know, I go to work sometimes because it's safer there for me. You know, and I hate to say it like that, because I'm, I work in a in a world where my job is providing safety. I'm, uh, I'm, you know, I'm like you said, I'm an air traffic controller. So my main job is providing safety. So it seems like it's my safe place. I know. And, and I comment to her all the time, I always say, Well, I just I'll just go to work. Because, you know, that's, you know, I hate saying all I'm good at, you know, it's like, I go to work because I spend so much time there. And it's it's my second home, really, and the guys at work. They know, you know, they're like, Dude, you need this? I'm like, to a certain point, you know, but um, you know, have you have that camaraderie with their with your team? You know, because I have I have a team, it's my group. So that's the hard part, I think you know, is that you won't have that. So I'll be stuck here with her. On a full time basis, I think that'll be the hardest part. So. So yeah, I'll lock myself in my room, and I'll make a lot of noise in the house and, you know, wait for summer so that I can go outside and sit by the pool.

Ibby Gill  33:17  
It's gonna be an adjustment.

Jim Gill  33:20  
Yeah, we don't know what it looks like to be real. Yeah. We don't know what it's gonna look like.

Ibby Gill  33:25  
Because he works so much. It's kind of trying to figure that out again, being together. Like, you know, we're just, we don't see that much. Now. You know, he goes to bed early on the weekends. And so it'll just kind of be we'll have to kind of figure it out. I think.

Rick Denton  33:45  
It does sound like it's a different layer of empty nesting like a couple of days to figure out how to be without kids. And then a couple has to figure out how to be without a career. And I know we're not there yet. With your permission, I'd like to have y'all on the show. Let's see July 4. How about September 18 and 24. And let's see what that looks like from the

Clancy Denton  34:12  
from the y'all will be at the pool. still be working

Jim Gill  34:18  
with us. And we do it on scene at the lake.

Ibby Gill  34:20  
Yeah, there you go. But your first on scene. We've talked about that. You can do that.

Rick Denton  34:28  
I do like that idea. And I like how y'all have that vision of what that looks like it planted I started this podcast because we will one one. It's something to do in the emptiness phase but to we purposely want to learn from others. And listener that's YouTube. So let us know what you know about being an empty nester and questions you have but just like today, getting to learn from you in gym How y'all are approaching this completely different style of emptiness. And we're going to be watching from the other side of crazy green to see So how you are navigating that post retirement world as well, it's going to be fascinating to watch and we're going to learn a lot from you and thank you for being our teachers even though you didn't intend to be.

Clancy Denton  35:11  
Ben. Good guys. Great guests. I mean, I really think that a lot of people can relate to all the different scenarios that you know, we all are on and especially y'all having two distinct things that you know, your kids pass that your kids have gone down and so yeah, I think I we really appreciate y'all being on today. And this has been another episode of the loud quiet, living the empty nest

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